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What’s Next for Newly Engaged Jenna Cooper and Jordan Kimball of ‘Bachelor in Paradise’

UPDATE September 12, 9:00 A.M.: After our interview with Jordan Kimball and Jenna Cooper went live, following the Bachelor in Paradise finale, reports surfaced of an alleged affair between Cooper and another man. “I am aware of the allegations being made against me and they are simply untrue,” Cooper told People. While Kimball told the publication, “I don’t know how to handle this. All I know is I obviously only knew a limited amount of information about Jenna. This is embarrassing and it hurts my pride. And our friendship is just tarnished.”

Original Story: Jordan Kimball and Jenna Cooper may provide Bachelor in Paradise with lots of comedic relief (see: the time Jordan threw a giant stuffed animal into the ocean, but their love is the real deal. “I’ve just never seen anything like them before,” Kenny King told Glamour after the finale taping. “The minute Jenna walked into Paradise, it was just over for Jordan.” Even Grocery Store Joe Amabile sees them going the distance and getting married by next summer. Or, as he puts it, “Jordan’s a go-getter.”

While Paradise wasn’t always easy for Cooper, a 29-year-old fitness model and social media manager, and Kimball, a 26-year-old pensive gentleman, the two are happy their journey was documented. “It’s nice to watch it back and know we’re always going to have that,” Jordan tells Glamour. Adds Jenna, “We get to relive [falling in love]. And to see it working in real life, I just love it. It makes me so happy.”

So what is life going to be like now that the couple can go out in public together? And are they serious about getting married next summer in Paradise? After the finale, we caught up with the pair. Read on.

PHOTO: Jessica Radloff

Glamour: Congratulations! How did you know you this was your person?

Jordan Kimball: Just meeting her was so powerful. As soon as I saw her, I knew that I was never going to be the same. [To Jenna] I’ll always care about you, I’ll always love you unconditionally. This just brought us so close, and I don’t picture it without you.

Jenna Cooper: I can’t imagine living without you now. His fearless, stubborn pursuit of me made me feel like, OK, if we can get through Paradise and what I put you through, then we can get through anything. And I want to.

Glamour: But Jenna, he put you through stuff too!

Jordan: True. I put the whole community through things.

Jenna: Yeah, you did! But I feel like we’re not just going to get through things in life; we’re going to thrive as a couple. Personally, I think you bring out the best in me, and I bring out the best in you.

Glamour: On tonight’s finale, you said you want to get married June 9 next year, which is usually when Paradise is filming. So you want to get married on the show then, correct?

Jenna: Yes, in the environment where we fell in love. I can’t imagine it somewhere else.

Jordan: Yes. We owe it to them. They brought us together. To have everyone back is like another reunion, and they got to witness us fall in love. It’s such a beautiful place to bring all of our family there. I can’t think of a more fun environment.

Glamour: At one point before you got engaged, Jenna, Jordan said he didn’t know if he was ready. Does seeing and hearing some of these moments for the first time affect you?

Jordan: Absolutely. You don’t know what to expect. You don’t really understand what’s going on until you watch it back. I remember we did our fantasy suite, and I woke up the next morning and thought, I don’t know what I’m going to do. I thought [Jenna] was wonderful and then on the ride back [to the resort], I immediately got into the Suburban and knew at that moment. It just synched up. I was like, “OK, I’m going to do this!”

Jenna: I didn’t expect it, but I knew I was going to say yes—whenever he asked me, whether it was then or a year from now.

Jordan: She had a lot to say to me in the time building up to me getting down on one knee. She [talked] a lot. I was impressed. Usually you don’t talk that much. Not about love.

Jenna: That’s because I’ve met my match when it comes to talking. I just let you take the reins sometimes. I thought you’d appreciate that.

Jordan: Thanks, thanks.

Glamour: You two have talked a lot about being parents. Is that really in the near future?

Jordan: There’s a lot of talk about that. But I think we’re at least a year out.

Jenna: Yeah, agreed.

Glamour: What’s next for you both?

Jordan: I’m still on the same career path that I’ve been in. I actually have a shoot in a few days with Wilhelmina in Miami. She’s doing the same thing she’s been doing. We’re trying to let each other grow separately so we can help support our wants and everything. But while we’re doing that, we’re fueling the growth for us together, and…

Jenna: I like it that way. I’m pretty independent.

Jordan: We’ve [talked about me] moving from Florida. I’ve been traveling a lot, so I find myself not in Florida very much recently. It’s a good time to start a new chapter. Fall is coming up. Strike some romance there and keep falling for you. And yeah, we’re talking places and location. It’s not something you just sit down and decide. We’re going to figure it out and when we do, it’s going to be rock solid.

This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.

What’s Next for Bachelor in Paradise’s Newly Engaged Jenna Cooper and Jordan Kimball

UPDATE September 12, 9 A.M.: After our interview with Jordan Kimball and Jenna Cooper went live, following the Bachelor in Paradise finale, reports surfaced of an alleged affair between Cooper and another man. “I am aware of the allegations being made against me and they are simply untrue,” Cooper told People. While Kimball told the publication, “I don’t know how to handle this. All I know is I obviously only knew a limited amount of information about Jenna. This is embarrassing and it hurts my pride. And our friendship is just tarnished.”

Original Story: Jordan Kimball and Jenna Cooper may provide Bachelor in Paradise with lots of comedic relief (see: the time Jordan threw a giant stuffed animal into the ocean, but their love is the real deal. “I’ve just never seen anything like them before,” Kenny King told Glamour after the finale taping. “The minute Jenna walked into Paradise, it was just over for Jordan.” Even Grocery Store Joe Amabile sees them going the distance and getting married by next summer. Or, as he puts it, “Jordan’s a go-getter.”

While Paradise wasn’t always easy for Cooper, a 29-year-old fitness model/social media manager, and Kimball, a 26-year-old pensive gentleman, the two are happy their journey was documented. “It’s nice to watch it back and know we’re always going to have that,” Jordan tells Glamour. Adds Jenna, “We get to relive [falling in love]. And to see it working in real life, I just love it. It makes me so happy.”

So what is life going to be like now that the couple can go out in public together? And are they serious about getting married next summer in Paradise? After the finale, we caught up with the pair. Read on.

PHOTO: Jessica Radloff

Congratulations! How did you know you this was your person?

Jordan Kimball: Just meeting her was so powerful. As soon as I saw her, I knew that I was never going to be the same. [To Jenna] I’ll always care about you, I’ll always love you unconditionally. This just brought us so close, and I don’t picture it without you.

Jenna Cooper: I can’t imagine living without you now. His fearless, stubborn pursuit of me made me feel like, OK, if we can get through Paradise and what I put you through, then we can get through anything. And I want to.

But Jenna, he put you through stuff, too!

Jordan: True. I put the whole community through things.

Jenna: Yeah, you did! But I feel like we’re not just going to get through things in life, we’re going to thrive as a couple. Personally, I think you bring out the best in me, and I bring out the best in you.

On tonight’s finale, you said you want to get married June 9th next year, which is usually when Paradise is filming. So you want to get married on the show then, correct?

Jenna: Yes, in the environment where we fell in love. I can’t imagine it somewhere else.

Jordan: Yes. We owe it to them. They brought us together. To have everyone back is like another reunion, and they got to witness us fall in love. It’s such a beautiful place to bring all of our family there. I can’t think of a more fun environment.

At one point before you got engaged, Jenna, Jordan said he didn’t know if he was ready. Does seeing and hearing some of these moments for the first time affect you?

Jordan: Absolutely. You don’t know what to expect. You don’t really understand what’s going on until you watch it back. I remember we did our fantasy suite, and I woke up the next morning and thought, I don’t know what I’m going to do. I thought [Jenna] was wonderful and then on the ride back [to the resort], I immediately got into the Suburban and knew at that moment. It just synced up. I was like, “OK, I’m going to do this!”

Jenna: I didn’t expect it, but I knew I was going to say yes—whenever he asked me, whether it was then or a year from now.

Jordan: She had a lot to say to me in the time building up to me getting down on one knee. She [talked] a lot. I was impressed. Usually you don’t talk that much. Not about love.

Jenna: That’s because I’ve met my match when it comes to talking. I just let you take the reins sometimes. I thought you’d appreciate that.

Jordan: Thanks, thanks.

You two have talked a lot about being parents. Is that really in the near future?

Jordan: There’s a lot of talk about that. But I think we’re at least a year out.

Jenna: Yeah, agreed.

What’s next for you both?

Jordan: I’m still on the same career path that I’ve been in. I actually have a shoot in a few days with Wilhelmina in Miami. She’s doing the same thing she’s been doing. We’re trying to let each other grow separately so we can help support our wants and everything. But while we’re doing that, we’re fueling the growth for us together, and…

Jenna: I like it that way. I’m pretty independent.

Jordan: We’ve [talked about me] moving from Florida. I’ve been traveling a lot, so I find myself not in Florida very much recently. It’s a good time to start a new chapter. Fall is coming up. Strike some romance there and keep falling for you. And yeah, we’re talking places and location. It’s not something you just sit down and decide. We’re going to figure it out and when we do, it’s going to be rock solid.

This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.

The Flash Season 5 Premiere Images Suggest More Time Travel Than We Expected

The Flash has featured time travel from almost the very beginning of the series, and the Season 4 premiere made it quite clear that the show isn’t done with time travel yet. The definitive reveal that the Mystery Girl who had been popping up since the big Arrow-verse crossover was indeed Barry and Iris’ daughter from the future proved that more timeline shenanigans were in the works, with the Season 5 premiere likely to explain how Nora West-Allen had travelled back to introduce herself to her parents in 2018. Well, new images from the Season 5 premiere indicate that more time travel will happen than we expected. Take a look:

That right there is Barry Allen back in his Season 1 Flash suit! The Scarlet Speedster has gone through several versions of his suit over the years of the series so far, and Grant Gustin himself revealed a version of the Season 5 suit that proves it is a far cry from what he wore in the first season. The biggest giveaway is that the symbol on his chest is a lightning bolt against a red background rather than against a white background, as it has been for the past few years.

While we can’t necessarily rule out Barry needing to wear his Season 1 suit again, it’s more likely that we’re looking at Barry Allen circa Season 1. The big question now is why Season 1 Barry will be back on screen in the Season 5 premiere. The possibilities are that past Barry raced into the future, current Barry raced back to the past, or Nora first popped out of the Speed Force in 2014 rather than 2017, when viewers got their first sighting of her. Barry’s expression in the first image doesn’t give anything away, but he looks surprised and intrigued behind his cowl in a second image:

Personally, my money is on Season 1 Barry appearing in the Season 5 premiere via a Nora flashback, confirming that Nora accidentally turned up a few years earlier than intended. The look on Barry’s face could indicate that he sees something that piqued his interest — some purple lightning, perhaps? — but not enough that he would recognize her as another speedster. If this is the case, the next question is whether Nora had to stick around 2014 and wait for the normal passage of time before reaching out to Team Flash in 2017 or if she raced back through time yet again.

As Barry’s daughter, Nora would be believable as somebody who messes with time without thinking too far ahead about consequences. Hopefully she won’t need to create her own Flashpoint to learn a valuable lesson! We’ll have to wait and see. Season 5 of The Flash will premiere on Tuesday, October 9 at 8 p.m. ET as the first Arrow-verse show to debut in the 2018 fall lineup.

Surprise: Bachelor in Paradise’s Joe Amabile and Kendall Long Are Back Together

Caution: Spoilers for Bachelor in Paradise ahead.

It’s been a whirlwind 48 hours for Bachelor in Paradise fans, especially those who shipped Grocery Store Joe Amabile and Taxidermy Kendall Long. The once-solid couple had one of the more frustrating breakups this season, after Kendall told Joe on Monday’s episode that she didn’t know what kind of love she felt for him. Both left in tears, and all of Twitter went into full-fledged #TeamJoe mode:

But surprise! At the Bachelor in Paradise finale, Joe and Kendall revealed they’re back together. If that wasn’t enough, Chris Harrison invited a stunned Joe to compete on this season’s Dancing with the Stars, and he said yes. Talk about your life doing a 180 before your eyes.

“I had no idea that was coming! No idea. I still don’t know what’s going on,” Joe told Glamour after the finale. “I’m freaking out in my head. I don’t regret saying yes, [but] I don’t know how I’m going to do. It’s going to be interesting.”

As for Kendall, she can’t wait to see Joe out of his element. “I am so freaking excited to see Joe dance, because Joe hates dancing! Hates it. If you get a couple drinks in him he’ll dance a little bit, but he isn’t a dancer. So this is great. I’m excited for him to learn, [see] this new version of him, and grow with him.”

It’s a far cry from where the couple ended things in Mexico back in late June. “I feel like [the break-up] kind of happened for a reason, because we learned so much about each other,” Kendall says. “We had to almost be thrown in to everything in order to discover if this was actually something we wanted to work on.”

For his part, Joe thought there was no chance he’d get back together with Kendall when he left Paradise. “I thought it was over,” he tells us. “And I thought it was over because she was scared…and after that, that was it for me.” While Joe says he didn’t doubt that Kendall did care for him, he says that looking back “she was just scared because I’m the opposite of what she’s had or ever thought she’d have.”

And now? “I’m very happy,” Kendall says. “It was a really long road to get to where I am now, but overall I feel like it’s positive and everything turned out for the best. Once I got over the fear of everything I was just able to enjoy [the relationship].”

Kendall—who lives in Los Angeles—is excited to welcome Joe to her city while he competes on DWTS, but isn’t so sure she’d be willing to move to his hometown of Chicago once Joe completes his run on the show. “I think it would make more sense for Joe to move to Los Angeles as opposed to me moving to Chicago, but I do love Chicago. I just wouldn’t go there during the winter!”

Joe on the other hand, is only thinking about surviving his DWTS debut and this newfound fame. “I’m getting used to it,” he says. “It’s fun, it’s different. I don’t hate it.” He pauses. “I mean, I get nervous, but I think that’s normal. My life just majorly changed tonight.”

Why Littlefinger’s Death Still Feels Like A Big Deal For Game Of Thrones

Of all the deaths that have rocked Game of Thrones, let’s be honest — there are those that will cast a longer shadow than others. And that is where Littlefinger’s Season 7 demise comes into play. Yes, the Starks got their revenge on the man who had betrayed their family. Now, though, what’s left? Yes, there is reigning Queen Cersei and the issue of the Night King, but do either of these characters bring what Littlefinger did to the table?

When it comes to Game of Thrones‘ arsenal of villains, Littlefinger remained at the top of the heap throughout his run on the series. Always one step in front of everyone, Lord Baelish always had his finger on the pulse of other people’s actions. He was calculating, manipulative, and cunning. So, it makes sense that it took something as supernatural as Bran’s superpowers kicking into gear for the Starks to outmaneuver him… to death.

While Littlefinger got what was coming to him and the Starks added another win in their rightful vengeance column, did it really belong in Season 7? After many seasons on a horrific losing streak, the Starks managed to put in back-to-back seasons dispatching enemies. In Season 6, Jon and Sansa ended the tyranny of the despicable Ramsay Bolton. Fast forward to Season 7, and Bran, Sansa, and Arya kept their House’s streak alive by ending Littlefinger.

Now, we all face the final season without him. Yes, there are only so many episodes of the show’s last chapter to unfurl, making it time to narrow down the show’s once vast field of final players. But of all the characters worth seeing take part in the series’ finale, Littlefinger was chief among them. As a rogue, he was always a wild card.

Would he show up to the Battle of the Bastards with the men Sansa had secretly written to him asking for at all? Or would he screw the Starks over one last time for his own amusement? Few other Game of Thrones characters could keep you on the edge of your seat the way he could. And therein lies a large part of the issue.

We know the Night King wants to destroy the world with his ice zombie apocalypse. We know that Cersei has justified her entire reign of terror for her House, which she claims will be welcoming a new member. You can detest her and everything that she stands for, but you know where she stands and where that could end up getting her when all is said and done.

Littlefinger as an opportunist was harder to predict than his villainous counterparts. He brought the tension. He watched and waited with sly grins galore. While an entire room of people chanted Jon Snow’s coronation as the King in the North, Littlefinger infamously sat back, a knowing expression reaching across his face. He made you wonder, what is he going to do next? Season 8 will kick off without that theory-inspiring question.

And while Cersei and the Night King are certainly villains, the former has her reasons for what she’s doing. In Cersei’s case, she claims to hurt others for what she believes to be a higher purpose that goes beyond what is solely self-preservation — her family. The Night King has a thing for silence, making his motives more inscrutable. He behaves like a virus, not a thoughtfully evil person.

Both Cersei and the Night King’s endgames mean danger to the characters we are rooting for to survive. And while we all want to see Cersei face the music for all of the awful things she has done, we have witnessed a lot go down in the meantime. She faced the “walk of shame” and has lost all of her living children, including the evil-beyond-words Joffrey.

In the past seven seasons, it has not been non-stop sunshine for Tywin Lannister’s eldest child. There has been grief and heartache. So, if Cersei is dealt her final blow next season, it will not be the end of an absolute winning streak. In contrast, Littlefinger’s Season 7 dispatching occurred without his having suffered any such setbacks. He was just here one minute and gone the next, save for a brief attempt to talk his way out of it.

One question going into Season 8 is whether the Starks will face any heat for taking out Littlefinger. They got rid of Ramsay Bolton in a battle. They got rid of Littlefinger in a more assassination-style manner, which meant the siblings foregoing much of a trial for him. With Jon Snow bending a knee to Daenerys in Season 7 and his siblings executing one of their enemies while he was away, the Starks could be in for a bit of controversy when Season 8 rolls around.

Without Littlefinger around in the final season, Game of Thrones has lost a handful of potential. While the Starks knew they did not need him anymore, the show will be missing out on a key ingredient when it comes back for its final bow. Game of Thrones will return for its eighth and final season sometime in 2019 on HBO. Thank goodness, there is a lot of new programming over fall to keep TV fans busy in the meantime.

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Crazy Rich Asians Cut Three Big Scenes, Here’s What They Included

In recent years, the fresh and successful romantic comedy has seemed like a relic of the past… but that was only up until Crazy Rich Asians took the box office by storm. The film is based on the best-selling novel of the same name by Kevin Kwan, but as many cinephiles know, book adaptations are famously difficult to tackle because the material is typically much more detailed than a movie can be. And while some of the extra material does get filmed, it can get the axe in the editing suite. The full extent of these cuts is always interesting, and editor of Crazy Rich Asians, Myron Kerstein, recently spoke with me about the challenge to cut down the story, and some of the difficult decisions they had to make, including,

[One cut was] a big set-piece karaoke scene, where Rachel and Nick, they actually know each other in the film, but they act like they don’t know each other. So it’s like this traditional romantic-comedy trope, and it was pretty well done, but we thought in service of the film we didn’t think we needed it.

Wait, wait… we did not know seeing Constance Wu and Henry Golding belt out a cheesy karaoke song together was ever on the table, but it sounds like it would have been a fun addition to the film. The scene served as an original introduction to the couple, however, Myron Kerstein and director Jon Chu decided to take it out in favor of spending more time in Singapore. By cutting this bit, the filmmakers more of the opportunity to set Crazy Rich Asians apart from other rom-coms with its release, making an entertaining cliché such as this not a must.

But that wasn’t the only deleted sequence Myron Kerstein detailed during our interview. For example, there was originally going to be a version of Crazy Rich Asians that spent a bit more time dedicated to Charlie Wu, portrayed by Harry Shum Jr. Said the filmmaker,

There was a big debate about Astrid’s storyline, famously with Harry Shum Jr., but his role was limited. That was actually much bigger. We basically cut a big dance number between Gemma and Harry just in the body of the wedding reception, and that takes a lot of balls to cut Harry Shum. He’s a pretty incredible dancer, but we had to service Astrid’s storyline. There was the scene in the body of the wedding reception that had [Charlie Wu] say to Astrid, ‘You’re better than your husband, you should leave him.’ And we’re like, ‘No, no, no. We want Astrid to do this for herself. She’s a strong woman. You don’t need a man telling you what to do.’ That was a tough call.

Fans of the book know that Astrid’s storyline plays a much larger role in the source material, with past-lover Charlie Wu being someone she reconnects with at the wedding. However, Harry Shum Jr. only ended up being in a end-credit scene in Crazy Rich Asians, as a nod to the novel and to open up a possibility for Charlie to have a bigger role in the confirmed sequel, China Rich Girlfriend. The filmmakers’ conscious decision to have Astrid decide to leave Michael on her own enriches the character as well.

Myron Kerstein further revealed that he and Jon Chu also had to cut a lot of footage from the bachelorette/bachelor party scenes, which even in the theatrical version still see Rachel and Nick overwhelmed with the planned festivities for the bride and groom. As Kerstein detailed,

That section of the movie used to be maybe like 30 minutes in itself, and we had these gigantic set pieces where they’re having the time of their lives on the freighter ship and we thought, ‘Well, do we really need all this material to tell her story?’ And don’t we want to be short and sweet with saying that they arrived in the ship and then get on with their story. It was just a lot of overwhelming amount of stories to keep trimming down. And also in the back of our heads we were thinking most romantic comedies clock in around an hour-and-a-half or so, and we were starting with a three-hour cut… But yes, there’s tons of scenes when everyone wants to buy the DVD.

Since Crazy Rich Asians turned out to be two hours long, it looks like about an hour of footage had to be cut in order for it to follow more in the footsteps of adaptations such as The Devil Wears Prada and less like The Lord of the Rings franchise. The rom-com hit is currently in theaters for you to check out. Of course, after news of a karaoke scene, dance number and more hilarious moments between the cast, it will soon come time to look forward to the home release, likely to be released before the start of 2019.

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Did Gotham Just Cast Shane West To Play This Key Comics Character?

Unfortunately for fans dying for Bruce Wayne’s origin story to continue indefinitely on Fox, Gotham will come to an end after the finale of the upcoming fifth season. The good news is that the early cancellation means Gotham can pull out all the stops and get really wild for its final batch of episodes, and in true Gotham style, that means bringing out the big villains. Now, Shane West has joined the cast as a villain, and all signs point toward him playing a key comics villain known King Snake.

Shane West has been cast as a character by the name of Eduardo Dorrance. Eduardo will arrive in Gotham City with a team of elite soldiers, seemingly intending to help pull the city out of its state of no-man’s-land lawlessness. He’ll have a friend to vouch for him in Gotham, as he’s an old army buddy of Jim Gordon. Despite the fact that they lost touch in the years since leaving the army, Jim will accept Dorrance and his soldiers’ help… until he comes to realize that Dorrance isn’t the man he thought. Jim will discover Dorrance’s intentions are darker than he could have ever imagined, even touching on evil. Ouch for Jim, awesome for viewers!

Now, nowhere in the official description of Shane West’s character (courtesy of Deadline) is there an explicit reference to somebody named “King Snake,” but DC Comics fans will connect a character named “Eduardo Dorrance” to a comic counterpart with almost exactly the same name. Sir Edmund Dorrance was a member of the British Army’s Royal Artillery and later became a dangerous mercenary. He eventually took on the “King Snake” title as a villain, although not without fathering a child that would go up to become the back- and Bat-breaking Bane. Surely Gotham wouldn’t cast Shane West as a character named Eduardo Dorrance without turning him into King Snake!

Shane West’s casting comes not too long after rumors of King Snake’s introduction began to circulate, as did rumors of Bane himself popping up. The eighth episode of Season 5 is reportedly titled “I Am Bane,” which obviously seems to point toward Bane turning up, perhaps seizing his destiny as the young Scarecrow did on Gotham.

That said, Shane West is only 40 years old. He might be a bit young to play Bane’s father if Bane is old enough to begin his villainous journey, especially since West is on board in a recurring capacity. Isn’t it possible that Gotham is putting an especially Gotham-y twist on Bane and revealing that Eduardo Dorrance is Bane? It wouldn’t be the weirdest thing Gotham has ever done, and Bruce would be wise to keep on fortifying his Batcave. If Gotham can use Cameron Monaghan to play two Joker-esque roles without confirming that either identity actually is the Joker, what can’t Gotham do?

Whether Eduardo is Bane or King Snake or some amalgamation of both, he’s just one more villain who will menace the good guys in no man’s land when the fifth and final season kicks off next year, as it sadly will not be back as part of the fall TV lineup unlike many other DC TV shows.

Bachelor in Paradise’s Chris Randone Reveals Why He Wanted to Confuse Krystal Nielson During His Proposal

Caution: Bachelor in Paradise finale spoilers ahead.

If Chris Randone and Krystal Nielson are looking for someone other than Bachelor in Paradise host Chris Harrison to officiate their wedding, they should look no further than fellow contestant John Graham. At the finale taping, Graham couldn’t stop raving about his support for the two. “They are head over heels for each other, and they are amazing together,” he told Glamour. “So supportive, and they’re moving in together. Everything about their relationship is awesome. I love them and support them 100%.” Even Tia got on the Chris and Krystal bandwagon when she told us that “as crazy as it is, they’re made for each other. I think they’ve got a damn good shot at this. It totally works.”

John and Tia should know. After all, they were with the pair for most of Paradise—the place where Chris and Krystal managed to rehab their image from their time on The Bachelor and The Bachelorette. But what makes the pair certain they’ll thrive as a couple in the real world? And most important, what was up with Chris’ confusing proposal that made it seem like he might break up with Krystal? We caught up with the engaged couple to get the answers to all that and more.

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Chris, you kind of made viewers think you might be breaking up with Krystal during your proposal. Why?

Chris Randone: I wanted to let her know that I was so in love with who she was on the inside—her heart.

Krystal Nielson: I was nervous!

Chris: It was just something where I wanted to keep her on her toes because she always keeps me on my toes. I didn’t want to leave here holding her hand. I wanted to leave here secure in her heart. That’s how I felt, and that’s how it came out.

Krystal: I was watching him, hearing him say the words, but his body language was so into me, I was like, “Uh, I hear what you’re saying but your body language isn’t matching up. So…” I knew he was messing with me. [Laughs] For a moment, though, I was like, “What?” Then I was assessing the situation and was like, “Nah… he’s playing with me. He loves me. He loves me.”

Chris: She’s incredible. There was a moment in our fantasy suite date where she was talking about an ex, but I thought she was talking about the situation between her and I, and I thought she was about to end it. I couldn’t breathe for like 15 seconds when she was talking to me, so I was like, I’m going to give her a taste of her own medicine… [Laughs]

Is that really why you messed with her at the proposal then?

Chris: No, no. I just had this whole thing…I took an entire day to figure out what I wanted to say. They felt like vows. I wanted to pinpoint all the amazing things she’s done for me and the transformation she’s helped me with, the evolution. All the key moments we had in paradise, even in the beginning episode—there was so much depth and so much conversation that really brought us together. And here we are.

Would you consider getting married on Paradise next year?

Chris: That’s a really good question because we definitely want a beach wedding. I’m going to support anything she wants.

Krystal: [Yes], barefoot in the sand!

Wherever it is, you need people to throw glitter instead of rice once you’re married.

Chris: If that’s what she wants, we’re getting pounds of glitter. That’s a very good advice. I’m all for it. Love it.

What makes you guys know that you found your person?

Chris: For me, it was our one-on-one date. We were dancing in the water, and she had this glow. She kept smiling, and I looked into her eyes and it was in that moment that it was the eyes of the woman I wanted to look into forever. 100 percent. I knew right then and there I was going to get down on one knee in paradise. I was already sold. It was just something I felt in the inside. She has a very genuine heart and her soul is so beautiful, I couldn’t imagine connecting with another woman or having love for another woman.

Krystal: We talked about this early on. The way things were going, I had a feeling he was going to leave without friends and have a bad experience. [Because of that] I wanted to give him some advice. It was the day after the second rose ceremony, and I wanted to see what he would do with [my advice]. He just stepped up and listened and applied the feedback. He got vulnerable. I love a man who can take ownership. Through his actions, he really won my heart over.

Finally, Krystal, how do you feel about the fact that a black box was used to cover up your butt most of the time on Paradise?

Krystal: [Laughs] I’m annoyed! I worked really hard on leg days specifically to rock those bikinis.

Chris: She wore some incredible bikinis, and it’s very unfortunate that the black box takes that away.

Krystal: But it looked good. I looked good. [Laughs]

This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.

Here’s What Is Next for Bachelor in Paradise’s Newly Engaged Jenna Cooper and Jordan Kimball

Caution: Bachelor in Paradise finale spoilers ahead.

Jordan Kimball and Jenna Cooper may provide Bachelor in Paradise with lots of comedic relief (see: the time Jordan threw a giant stuffed animal into the ocean, but their love is the real deal. “I’ve just never seen anything like them before,” Kenny King told Glamour after the finale taping. “The minute Jenna walked into Paradise, it was just over for Jordan.” Even Grocery Store Joe Amabile sees them going the distance and getting married by next summer. Or, as he puts it, “Jordan’s a go-getter.”

While Paradise wasn’t always easy for Cooper, a 29-year-old fitness model/social media manager, and Kimball, a 26-year-old pensive gentleman, the two are happy their journey was documented. “It’s nice to watch it back and know we’re always going to have that,” Jordan tells Glamour. Adds Jenna, “We get to relive [falling in love]. And to see it working in real life, I just love it. It makes me so happy.”

So what is life going to be like now that the couple can go out in public together? And are they serious about getting married next summer in Paradise? After the finale, we caught up with the pair. Read on.

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Congratulations! How did you know you this was your person?

Jordan Kimball: Just meeting her was so powerful. As soon as I saw her, I knew that I was never going to be the same. [To Jenna] I’ll always care about you, I’ll always love you unconditionally. This just brought us so close, and I don’t picture it without you.

Jenna Cooper: I can’t imagine living without you now. His fearless, stubborn pursuit of me made me feel like, OK, if we can get through Paradise and what I put you through, then we can get through anything. And I want to.

But Jenna, he put you through stuff, too!

Jordan: True. I put the whole community through things.

Jenna: Yeah, you did! But I feel like we’re not just going to get through things in life, we’re going to thrive as a couple. Personally, I think you bring out the best in me, and I bring out the best in you.

On tonight’s finale, you said you want to get married June 9th next year, which is usually when Paradise is filming. So you want to get married on the show then, correct?

Jenna: Yes, in the environment where we fell in love. I can’t imagine it somewhere else.

Jordan: Yes. We owe it to them. They brought us together. To have everyone back is like another reunion, and they got to witness us fall in love. It’s such a beautiful place to bring all of our family there. I can’t think of a more fun environment.

At one point before you got engaged, Jenna, Jordan said he didn’t know if he was ready. Does seeing and hearing some of these moments for the first time affect you?

Jordan: Absolutely. You don’t know what to expect. You don’t really understand what’s going on until you watch it back. I remember we did our fantasy suite, and I woke up the next morning and thought, I don’t know what I’m going to do. I thought [Jenna] was wonderful and then on the ride back [to the resort], I immediately got into the Suburban and knew at that moment. It just synced up. I was like, “OK, I’m going to do this!”

Jenna: I didn’t expect it, but I knew I was going to say yes—whenever he asked me, whether it was then or a year from now.

Jordan: She had a lot to say to me in the time building up to me getting down on one knee. She [talked] a lot. I was impressed. Usually you don’t talk that much. Not about love.

Jenna: That’s because I’ve met my match when it comes to talking. I just let you take the reins sometimes. I thought you’d appreciate that.

Jordan: Thanks, thanks.

You two have talked a lot about being parents. Is that really in the near future?

Jordan: There’s a lot of talk about that. But I think we’re at least a year out.

Jenna: Yeah, agreed.

What’s next for you both?

Jordan: I’m still on the same career path that I’ve been in. I actually have a shoot in a few days with Wilhelmina in Miami. She’s doing the same thing she’s been doing. We’re trying to let each other grow separately so we can help support our wants and everything. But while we’re doing that, we’re fueling the growth for us together, and…

Jenna: I like it that way. I’m pretty independent.

Jordan: We’ve [talked about me] moving from Florida. I’ve been traveling a lot, so I find myself not in Florida very much recently. It’s a good time to start a new chapter. Fall is coming up. Strike some romance there and keep falling for you. And yeah, we’re talking places and location. It’s not something you just sit down and decide. We’re going to figure it out and when we do, it’s going to be rock solid.

This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.

NCIS: New Orleans Cast Geoffrey Owens For Season 5

Cosby Show alum Geoffrey Owens recently made headlines when a photo of him working at Trader Joe’s went viral. The sudden buzz surrounding Owens’ career has resulted in the actor landing roles on TV shows, including an ongoing gig on Tyler Perry’s The Haves and the Have Nots. Additionally, Owens nabbed a job that will take him back to broadcast network television in a high-profile franchise. Yes, Geoffrey Owens will appear on NCIS: New Orleans in its upcoming fifth season.

Geoffrey Owens will appear as a guest star in the sixth episode of NCIS: New Orleans Season 5. Although he is currently only slated to appear in this one episode, the description of his character indicates that Owens isn’t playing a villain of the week or one of the many Navy officers who float in and out of the series. Although it’s much too soon to say for sure, his character may have the potential to return. Here’s what we know.

On NCIS: New Orleans, Geoffrey Owens will play an old friend of Pride’s by the name of Commander Adams. Still dealing with the emotional fallout of his near-death experience following the shooting in the Season 4 cliffhanger, Pride consults his trusted friend for advice, both medical and spiritual. Pride is experiencing ongoing symptoms of some sort, and Deadline reports that he wants Adams’ thoughts on what could be the cause and what he should do next. Could the new Season 5 leader have something to do with Pride’s uncertainty?

This casting — which will almost certainly be one of the least controversial NCIS: New Orleans moves in recent months — worked out because the show was looking for “someone with compassion, competence, and heart,” according to NCIS: NOLA executive producer Christopher SIlber, who went on to say that those words describe Owens “in a nutshell” and they’re “lucky to have him on the show.” Assuming NCIS: New Orleans doesn’t deal Pride yet another tragic twist by killing off his old friend in that friend’s very first episode, the door may be open for Commander Adams to turn up yet again.

Interestingly, NCIS: NOLA will take Geoffrey Owens back to CBS for the third time in the last couple of years. Although he hasn’t had a regular job on TV for a while, he did appear in episodes of CBS’ Blue Bloods and Elementary, in 2017 and 2018, respectively. Elsewhere on network TV in recent years, Owens appeared on episodes of The Blacklist on NBC and Lucifer on Fox.

Given that Geoffrey Owens will appear in 10 episodes of Tyler Perry’s OWN drama The Haves and the Have Nots in Season 6, Owens may be busy in the foreseeable future. Still, a gig on any NCIS show is a pretty good thing. Assuming his character doesn’t die on NCIS: NOLA, there’s always the potential to crossover over to the original NCIS and NCIS: Los Angeles. At least one NCIS actor is on board with more crossovers!

No exact premiere date for Geoffrey Owens’ episode of NCIS: New Orleans has been revealed just yet, but it’s slated to debut at some point in late October. NCIS: NOLA will premiere in the fall lineup and pay off on that crazy cliffhanger on Tuesday, September 25 at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.